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emmanuel manolakakis
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 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:42 am Post subject: Multiple Attackers |
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Multiple Attackers
A student can face many of his or her fears head on if taught how to deal with multiple attackers properly. If done improperly a student’s fears and false perceptions will remain.
Below I’ve outlined some steps that might help those students struggling in dealing with multiple attackers.
Step 1 - Objective –breathing and moving
Working with 2 partners, have each walk towards you from a distance and different directions. Step out of the way with one calm movement, not several small ones.
Add proper breathing (In/out or Out/in). Do not try to hold your breathe!
Step 2 – Objective – breathing and moving plus a different variable
Once you’ve reached a level of comfort and can move freely with both partners, have them change from walking to kicking or punching. Start slowly and from a distance, increase the speed and decrease distance as your confidence and comfort grow.
Step 3 – Objective – breathing, moving and touching
If you’ve managed to keep your breathing in tack, a good posture, calm demeanor then your ready for the next step. Start to touch your partners as they pass by you. Remember to just touch, do not strike! You should also be connecting your movements more and be in a constant state of movement.
Step 4 – Objective – breathing, moving, touching and thinking
Pay attention to your position when you move from partner to partner. Limit the time that you are between then equally. Instead try to have them cross or interfere with each other - disrupt their movement and strengthen own. If you have any spare energy, start to pay attention to your partner’s body dynamics as you touch them.
Step 5 – breathing, moving, thinking, striking and emotions associated with strikes
Now change touching to striking. Remember that strikes should come as a result of good movement and generate from the body. Do not be aggressive or want to hit too much, just let it come naturally.
Things to consider:
1. Do not try to recreate a fight; you will never honestly be able too.
2. Start slowly until you feel comfortable, only then increase the speed and complexity of your movements.
3. Always maintain proper posture, but more so with multiple attackers.
4. Think about moving, not about competing.
5. You are developing the body’s ability to filter a wide variety of information while moving.
6. If you get confused or tense, always go back to the beginning and start over. Do not skip steps.
7. This is suppose to frustrate you, so don’t beat yourself up. Laugh, smile and have fun!!
Hope this helps,
emmanuel manolakakis |
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Lloyd Robrecht
Joined: 15 Jan 2004
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Location: Roanoke VA
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:41 am Post subject: Multiple |
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Many,
One of those posts that is so clear and helpful it just makes me say "A-men brutha".  Great stuff thanks.
Hope all is great with you.
Lloyd |
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Jody Dawkins
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Agreed! Thank you very much, Emmanuel!
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David Hohl
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Great exercises, I think I will devote an entire training group class to it! Thanks Emmanuel!
David
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David Hohl
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Great exercises, I think I will devote an entire training group class to it! Thanks Emmanuel!
David
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Arkadiy Stepankovskiy
Joined: 09 Dec 2003
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Location: Chicago, IL
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Multiple Attackers |
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Emmanuel,
A lot of useful information as usual.
Thanks for sharing brother.
Hope to see you soon back in Chicago,
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Jordan Campbell
Joined: 23 Jul 2004
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Location: Georgetown ON
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Emmanuel;
I'm glad you mentioned point #4, I find the competitive attitude a common accurance when training and even find myself caught up in it from time to time (ok so maybe a little more often than I'm making out, but I'm too competitive to admit that!  )... and I will add that it is no surprize that I learn the least when trying to compete. Also I have been training a couple of my bouncer friends in some of the basics of the system and have found that getting them to move past the whole competitive ego thing is one of the hardest things to get them to learn.
INteresting post, thanks for the tips.
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John Elliott
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Very useful, especially psyche aspects
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David Hohl
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Thanks Emmanuel. We used your post as the entire basis of our class last night. It was great, we all learned so much!
One thing that Jon, one of our guys brought up that really helped was that even when you are apparently still, you should be internally moving. It's hard to explain but maybe someone else can add to this. Basically when you are waiting for an attack you may not be physically moving yet but you are internally moving, almost in an invisible wave. This way you start moving again easily as opposed to stopping "dead" and then having to restart again when it's time to evade. I imagine it as an internal gyroscope always going. Anyway, this idea really helped me. And the progression you wrote in you post was perfect to work with. That's all we did for 90 minutes.
Thanks,
David
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Brian King
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Considering the topic of Vladimir’s seminar coming up the end of this month down in California I thought that this (great yet old) thread might be timely reading for those like myself attending and wanting to prep.
Regards
Brian King
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emmanuel manolakakis
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:11 am Post subject: |
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"There is nothing that compares to a mass fight situation! You'll never feel more alive and if you train right (Following Vlads guidance) you'll have fun.
That's a scare combo!
All the best,
emmanuel |
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Paolo Verrone
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| emmanuel manolakakis wrote: | "There is nothing that compares to a mass fight situation! You'll never feel more alive and if you train right (Following Vlads guidance) you'll have fun.
That's a scare combo!
All the best,
emmanuel |
Thank You, Mr. Manolakakis, now many things about this subject look pretty clearer.
Have a nice day.
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RachelKlingberg
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| Quote: | | One thing that Jon, one of our guys brought up that really helped was that even when you are apparently still, you should be internally moving. It's hard to explain but maybe someone else can add to this. Basically when you are waiting for an attack you may not be physically moving yet but you are internally moving, almost in an invisible wave. This way you start moving again easily as opposed to stopping "dead" and then having to restart again when it's time to evade. I imagine it as an internal gyroscope always going. Anyway, this idea really helped me. And the progression you wrote in you post was perfect to work with. That's all we did for 90 minutes. |
I like your "internal gyroscope" analogy because I can imagine how the axis of the hips and shoulders rotating around the center is a little like a gyroscope.
We did an exercise with Val last week that illustrated how we are all moving internally all the time, even when we think we are standing still. It's a very simple drill. Just stand behind your partner and place your hands on his shoulders. Your partner should stand perfectly still. Then you try to feel the small internal movements. You can close your eyes if it helps. After half-a-minute or so, you should be able to pick up on very slight leanings and wobblings. Even when we think we are still, we are moving. The next step of the exercise is to sense your partner's movement in a particular direction and then try to use that to take him down. But, like most Systema drills, this is not a competitive thing. No need to wrestle your partner to the ground by any means necessary. Likewise, if your partner has a good feeling for your internal movement and is taking you down, don't resort to all kinds of crazy evasion maneuvers so that he can't take you down. The goal here is for both of you to learn about movement, not to see who is the Best Ever Martialist. I only mention this because I've seen it not infrequently: the simplest sensitivity drill becomes a Last Man Standing competition. It is almost impossible to be sensitive and to be competitive at the same time.
That's the end of my public service announcement regarding simple Systema drills. But if you try this exercise, you'll gain a whole new understanding of internal movement.
*Vsego nailuchshego* (best wishes),
Rachel
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