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Foot-tappin' revival... sort of
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:11 am    Post subject: Foot-tappin' revival... sort of Reply with quote

I recall a fairly recent thread in which it was mentioned that Misha revived an unconscious person by kicking the bottom of his foot. I just happened across this article, and it made me wonder...

Oregon dad saves newborn after birth at home
Father performed CPR on daughter after sudden delivery
The Associated Press


Updated: 10:35 p.m. CT Aug 23, 2006
PORTLAND, Ore. - Acting on the instructions of a 911 operator, Boe Ellis breathed life into his newborn daughter as paramedics raced to the house where the baby arrived sooner than her parents or doctors expected.

"I would give Dad all the credit in the world," said Bob Pulford, one of the paramedics.

Only hours earlier, Sharon Ellis had gone for a routine checkup at Willamette Falls Hospital, where doctors told her she'd probably have the baby this weekend, Boe said.

Sharon had a few minor contractions leading up to the Monday appointment, so Boe took the day off, and the family spent the afternoon at a friend's house.

The couple went to bed at about 10 p.m., expecting little more than a restful night's sleep, Boe Ellis said.

About 1 a.m. Tuesday, Sharon went into sudden labor in the bathroom of their Canby home and yelled to her husband there was no time to get to a hospital.

In a matter of minutes, the baby was born. But instead of warming to a healthy pink, she was pale and struggling for air.

As paramedics raced to the Ellis home, Boe, 29, followed instructions from 911 operator Tammy Shaver. He cleared his daughter's breathing passage, blew two puffs of air into her mouth and gently pressed on her chest to stimulate her heart.

Finally, Boe tapped on his daughter's feet, and Bridget took her first light breaths as Pulford and fellow paramedics Val Codino and Tighe Vroman arrived.


They found the baby's pulse and respiration were slow, so they left her connected to the umbilical cord and receiving oxygenated blood from her mother while they continued resuscitation. Over the next 18 minutes, they provided physical stimulation and supplemental oxygen.

But the paramedics all agreed that Boe Ellis saved his baby's life and protected her from brain damage or other long-term effects.

Bridget Ellis was doing fine with her mother at Legacy Meridian Park Hospital in Tualatin, with her father and her 2-year-old sister, Brooke, all smiles.

Sharon Ellis, meanwhile, said she was still amazed at her husband's calm response: "I thought for sure he would have passed out in a situation like that."

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that is really interesting!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the story. Smile

The foot tap is particularly interesting, to me. It co-encides with the principles of 'Katsu' - a japanese method of revival. Larry or Brad could probably tell more in detail - but, back in the 60's - basic revival was part of the class syllabus.
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Once, when my daughter was a few months old, she stopped breathing - for some reason. I was lucky enough to have been certified in CPR - and turned her over into a position where I could soflty pressure her lil rib cage to make her lungs fill -- and a few moments later - she was breathing and smiling like a little angel.

The reason I bring this up? Very simple. Overall, martial students spend hours and hours in learning how to do ' this and that'...but too few ever take the time to learn basic first aid, the Heimlick(?) maneouver - and CPR.

Thats a crying shame! I whole heartedly endorse that anyone in Systema - learn just these basics...its a few hours - but can save the life of another. It might not even cost you anything but time - classes are often offered for free. Consider this advice - for I dont wish these words to come back to haunt you.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

recall a fairly recent thread in which it was mentioned that Misha revived an unconscious person by kicking the bottom of his foot. I just happened across this article, and it made me wonder...


Interesting article,there is a point on the foot its called kidney point one (located between second and the third metatarsal bones in the aponeurosis of the sole. Some surgeons have been known to work this point when CPR has failed. Another interesting fact:
You can stop a nose bleed by gently tapping around this area. For instance if you are bleeding in you left nostril, you tap the right foot. I know its mad but it works. Maybe there is a connection to this and deeper striking in systema?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deep grinding finger pressure into what the Chinese call the Bubbling Well point is a major revival method (in terms of acupuncture, the point's also called Kidney 1). It's located in the center of the foot just below the ball. In newborn babies, the Bubbling Well point is massaged to determine if the Babinski reflex is operating as part of the Apgar Scale. If it is, all's well with the baby. If it isn't, that can be an indication that neurological development hasn't extended all the way down to the hands and the feet and there's something wrong (this is especially relevant in premature babies).

See http://www.babylon.com/definition/Bubbling%20Well/All

About a year and a half ago, my son and I arrived at my (now-deceased) sister-in-law's apartment after she didn't answer the usual wake up call my wife would give her every day (she was a juvenile-onset, exceptionally brittle diabetic). Right away we could see she was having another of her low sugar crises, except this one was a lot worse. At first, she was at least semi-conscious, albeit with extremely slurred speech. While I tried to get some glucophage into her mouth my son called 911. At that point my sister-in-law was pretty stiff and making the beginnings of petite-mal seizure motions. About two minutes later before EMS arrived she went entirely limp and unconscious.

At that point I heavily grinded my thumb into the Bubbling Well point of her left foot. After about 15 seconds of grinding into the point, she groaned and began coming conscious. By the time EMS arrived she was even more conscious but still in a lot of trouble. After a tube of glucophage had been swallowed, her blood sugar was 15. EMS got her into the ambulance and to the local ER, and for the time being she was okay.

I was told by a close friend of mine who trained in TCM that it's customary in the morgues in China to heavily massage the Bubbling Well points of all the cadavers that are brought in. Usually about once a year one of the "cadavers" comes to life.

No need to do an autopsy on that guy! Laughing

I would think a good sharp kick to the Bubbling Well point would be a pretty decent way to wake it up!


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